Nothing like popping a blog cherry. How satisfying this is. I'll address the intergrated league first. Thomas, I like where you are headed with the rules and the keeper situation. However, I like it as a seperate league apart from the NFL league we have now. My reasons: - I do not like Hackett's view and do not want people in the league to participate just so we ALL can be in it and were talked into it. I want a league the league to be competitive and people to follow it. I don't teams that will draft, not follow the league all here, and then have a nice keeper for the following year because of an auto-draft. - I would rather have people that are committed to the league and are constantly thinking big picture, even if I don't know them. I'll use Dom as an example, only because you confirmed you would do the league only have Hackett said it would be easy. So, say Dom joins the league. He doesn't watch the waiver wire, making it easier for the people who are committed to pick up whoever they want. Yes, good for me because I picture myself as a committed owner. However, I do not want that. I want a competitive waiver wire all the way up the chain. Kind of how competitive if was to get Miles Austin last year. I don't want the number one team in CFFB to be able to get the college Miles Austin at no problem at all. Secondly, I would prefer to have a player to see how every move impacts his current and future CFFB and NFLFFB. For instance, I would rather have a guy see that he can trade two of his under-classmen college keepers for an NFL college keeper because he knows that he has his best shot at winning next year in NFLFFB due to his expiring keepers the year after next and the quality of the College-NFL keeper as a 17th round pick will give him a shot. I would rather have someone like this in the league rather than Dom, who will choose his keeper when he is told to and it will be from a pool of players that were automatically drafted by a computer. Dom, not calling you out, just using you as an example as you responded to Hackett's email which I am not high on. - I like the NFL league we have now and don't want to mess with a good thing. I think for the most part everyone stays committed and starts the season with a true passion to win. I think having to pay attention to college football will be too much for some people and they will grow disinterested and will not care as much. - I get that this college league would have a one player impact on our rosters, I would just prefer to play in a league where the owners are competitive on both the college and NFL fronts.
Thomas, as for your draft proposal. I just had a pretty solid explanation I think, but when I went to publish it disappeared. Sucks, I know.
Anyways, heres a cliff notes. We are pretty much on the same page. You can trade and wheel and deal all you want as long as the draft picks are even. You can trade straight up draft picks (which I plan to try to do). Example I trade my 1st and 4th round pick for your 2nd and 3rd round pick.
As for the Mendenhall, Johnson trade. If you and Rabil pull that off, then you would have two 5th round drafts picks (one of which you have the right to draft Johnson) and no 12th round pick. Rabil gets two 12th round picks (one of which is the right to draft mendenhall) and no 5th round pick. If one of you decide you dont want to keep that person anymore, you still have that draft pick that you would have drafted the keeper at. Deciding you don't want a keeper after you trade for him does not nullify the trade and return the owners to their position before the trade. Trades have to be for even draft picks, and all eligible keepers can be traded.
Needless to say, we will know for sure what a trade looks like until one is accepted between two owners. I will exercise my options as commish if need be. I do know that the trades will have to be for even draft picks.
So, I had much more written but lost it when I went to go publish it. My blogging skills are not good. I can't sleep because I had a red bull too late at work so I have no idea what I wrote makes sense. The main points I wanted to get across are: trades have to be even in draft picks and all eligible keepers can be traded. Or just straight up draft picks. Also, I would prefer to have a league full of committed owners for the integrated league and that this league is seperate. I am high on the separate league. Not so much combining leagues right now.
Rabil, props on the blog. Solid use of the rugby player as the background.
Is there any way you can add personal gmail accounts so that I can use my name to log in a post. I think that is causing me my troubles on trying to post.
OC, I am still confused as to why draft picks have to be involved in a trade like that, at all. Why couldn't I just Mendenhall for Johnson straight-up? This format seems way too complex. I feel like trades should be executed just as they are in the real league.
ReplyDeleteI have made a proposal to JD, where I will give him Beanie Wells and Pierre Garcon in exchange for Phillip Rivers, which seems both fair and mutually beneficial. However, I don't think this trade could work in the format you have described.
As for the CFFB league and integrated NFLFFB league, I tend to side with OC, in that I want people to take it as seriously as I plan on doing. I would love for that to be the same group of guys, but it is becoming clear that that won't work. So, as I wrote last night, I will have a clear set of rules for the proposed league by the end of day Friday (most likely today, though). At that time I'll need a final count. Beginning next week, I will have to recruit additional owners to get our league to 12.
Lastly, I am looking for names for the new league. I'm looking at you Rabes.
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ReplyDeleteI agree with you. And I also agree with OC that trades need to leave everyone with the same amount of players, so every team enters the draft with 17 roster spots. It just makes it easier that way. In a player-for-player swap like this no compensating draft picks have to be given up as the two are basically just swapping players. If, instead of Rivers, JD gave T his 5th round pick, then that would leave JD one roster spot short and T would have to include one of his draft picks (probably just his 17th to make it even).